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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       The Irish water spaniel association 35^th championship show  

                                             Saturday 17^th July 2010 at Hill farm

                                            Judge:  Marie Engström    Coffees     Sweden

I will just start to say thank you members to invite me to judge your dogs. The Association members voted for me 1995 and  that made me go through with judge exams in Sweden.

My overall impression over the day was temperaments and teeth have improved but variation in the breed is somewhat broader now than what is was in 1989 what is lacking now Is the correct form, expression and colour of eye the forefaces, stops and high dooms was good but dogs had to much cheek and not enough chiselling .Teeth have improved there was a couple of dogs with even bites but most had big white teeth some people need to spend more time cleaning  teeth than brushing out coat .Even tough the English standard doesn’t call for the  beard it was nice to see most of the dogs with beards some dogs had high set ears and short ear leathers shoulders and upper arms have improved but  there was very few dogs with a proper barrelled rib cage but most dogs heads were carried above the level of the back some croups were steep so the dogs looked as if they were running under themselves instead of driving from behind , dogs  need muscle to get going, exercises them more and on purpose to built muscle.  Four dogs had outstanding large feet and most had good padding underneath .The standard calls for curls and ringlets. Too many dogs were brushed out, and silky and soft and not prepared properly with water.

It is important to trim and prepared dogs into the standard not out from it.  There are other breeds to choose from, if you would like to have straight haired brown dog.

PD 1^st  Andrews Antdela Toffee Crisp 7 months old good length of muzzle great big white teeth with correct bite, ok form of eye but wrong colour too light, good eye lids high ear set ,still undeveloped in skull, ok shoulder placement and upper arm and forechest for age, suitable bone  for size, ok feet good over and underline enough length of croup, too narrow in thigh but enough length, should have had more muscle, ok hock ,correct set and length of tail parallel going elbowing out coming in moves ok from the side, good temperament

2^nd Messengers Stanegate Strike up the Band Big 11 month old dog long and gangly Ok length of muzzle and size of nose, eyes too light and round needs more layback of shoulder enough length of upper arm and enough forechest for age good bone ok over line but up tucked underline steep croup narrow second thigh and high hock good feet and tail moves with a very short step in front and a short step behind from the side doesn’t go on purpose, no ringlets or curls.

First dog win on gait and coat 

JD 1^st CC BIS Norman-Massa Malanis Sandor by Glenderry.Excellent male of high quality very good head in both length of muzzle and skull well placed ears and correct form well developed nose a light eye but the expression was alert beautiful setting of the neck into a well placed shoulders good forechest for age excellent upper arm excellent bone excellent feet good spring of rib for age good croup with a well set tail excellent second thigh low set hock with good angulation , excellent coat good in texture very good temperament parallel behind and a bit loose in elbows coming in side gait strong and powerful with the classic roll   .

ND 1^ST Newman&Hunters Madagh an Mona Masculine dog Coarse head broad skull muzzle ok round yellow eyes which spoils the expression good big white strong teeth good ear placement should have a better lay of shoulder and longer upper arm has not enough forechest ok spring of ribs long and muscular loin, ok croup could have had broader second thigh high hock ok feet and excellent tail, feet was smooth in front moved ok sometimes but was ambling Good coat    

2^nd Messengers Stanegate strike up the band

PGD 1^st Bonds Holbain Muddy Water Massive dog with no refinement strong in head with broad muzzle good big teeth round eyes too light with a dull expression high ear set straight shoulder and upper arm perfect feet and good bone  good underline would have liked more ribs strong muscular loin steep croup beautiful tail carried it down ,slightly stressed on the move , ok second thigh but high hocks excellent paws coat good structured but badly prepared for the show on the move close behind and doesn’t reach in front    

2^nd Peck & Spinks Doonbeg Meant To Be At Pentandra Enormous big male coarse head with a good nose perfect size of teeth round light eyes with aggressive expression good set ears with good ear leather should have a better lay of shoulder, short upper arm needs more forechest enough bone enough spring of ribs long in loin and short in ribs but loin is well muscled steep croup narrow in second thigh high in hock good tail but carried above the level of the back no reach or drive    

 3^rd Andrews Blades & McNaughts Antdela Leonardo 14^th month old coarse dog with a massive foreface broad back scull round yellow eyes with bad expression has a beard ears set ok but too short straight shoulder enough length of upper arm lacks forechest good barrel ribcage with bad underline strong loin bad croup carries the tail over the level of the back narrow in second thigh beautiful feet out brushed coat going away he is close behind and loose in elbows coming in no reach or drive

4^th Irwin’s Greensocks Summer Jazz 6 year old typey male with a good muzzle and even bite good expression dark eye good back scull well placed ears that are too short has beard straight shoulder and upper arm not enough forechest good spring of ribs and bone enough length of loin short in croup narrow second thigh and high hocks good tail soft coat but with ringlets 

VHC Costleys Beaufield Errigal at Axlehurn Masculine dog that is leggy good length of muzzle good nose round yellow eyes big broad back skull high set ears that are short and not lobe formed straight shoulder and short upper arm no forechest and no depth ok bone short ribcage that needs more barrel muscular loin steep croup narrow in second thigh that could be more muscular high hocks good tail but carries it over the level of the back no reach or drive no ringlets or curls  

A class with 5 big dogs and with high tails and slobber saliva class, so I have to  weigh  up, breed points and soundness.   

LD 1^st Andrews Antdela Larix Strong muzzle and cheek and strong back scull short ears that are well placed could have a better placed shoulder and better length of upper arm ok forechest well sprung ribs excellent feet up tucked underline short in croup tail set low and carries his tail low ok breadth of second thigh that needs more muscle high hocks coat prepared well. Sound going away loose in front coming in driving from behind but running low in front  

2^nd Hempstead’s Cuvana loutre De Mer Male with good teeth enough length of muzzle round and light eye good back scull good ear placement good barrel ribcage good bone small feet for his size good coat short in croup narrow second thigh short second thigh and high hock lacks reach in front but rolls on the move excellent coat

3^rd Walkers Malanis Cian at Ameysford JW ShCM

Good in height and length good length of muzzle coarse cheeks round light eyes short ears, ok placement, steep shoulder short upper arm lacks forechest enough barrel ribcage but its too short, good feet good placement of tail coat in good condition short croup enough second thigh but not enough muscle hock ok for his size, narrow behind going and elbowing out coming in lacks reach and drive, good temperament

Res Furbers Kerryken Hershey at Holbain 4 year old male that could have a stronger muzzle for the size of his head excellent colour of eyes but too round good expression and tight eyelids well placed ears with correct length and shape straight in shoulder but good upper arm and forechest enough ribcage good bone good feet short in croup narrow second thigh high hocked for his size not enough bend of stifle soft silky coat on the move he is unbalanced

4^th Triffitts By Jazz Reggae   Large coarse dog with a broad scull and broad between the eyes thick coarse cheeks cant assess him properly as he was growling so the next part of this critique is what I see not what I can feel .low set ears topknot is wrongly trimmed steep shoulder and steep upper arm short croup and tucked up underline on the move, very nice feet cant see the second thigh, ok tail but coat completely out brushed (excused)  

Also a class with variation but the breaking point became on the move, when muscular and condition made the placings.  

OD 1^st RCC Norman-Massa Fynder Sea Biscuit of Glenderry

Good chiselled head in good proportion well defined stop needs a better almond shaped eye but tight eyelids needs a darker eye good skull well placed ears that are short, shoulder placement ok, good length and angulation of upper arm, good forechest and spring of rib good strong loin good croup and bone, coat on the body is not curly enough leg hair out brushed he lifts the tail over the back on the move he is covering ground on the move and rolls 

2^ND Mooney’s IR SH CH Doonbeg Leap of Faith Well chiselled muzzle well defined stop should have had a better shaped eye and been darker ok for expression well placed ears with correct leather to much cheek well placed neck into ok shoulders enough length of upper arm, ok bone good top line and under line enough length of croup ,ok second thigh high hock well set tail carry’s tail over the level of the back good crispy curls on the body bad leg hair that is brushed out on the move he’s parallel behind but elbowing out In front side gait is restricted in front and driving from behind     

3^rd Andrews Antdela Oleander ShCM good size male good over and under line good muzzle scissor bite with good big teeth  clipper marks on his face correct colour and expression of eyes but they were round well formed skull good ear placement length  and leathers he has a beard enough forechest enough angulation in shoulders and upper arm good bone and feet for his size spring of rib ok but short in ribcage strong loin that is muscled needs a longer croup needs more width of thigh and muscle when he’s standing he points out the knees because his leg hair is brushed out it makes it look worse ok hocks coat on body is soft but has curls good temperament and uses his tail all the time moving from behind the hocks are straight but the knees are pointing out coming in he digs down in the front but with the correct roll  

RES Furber&Biggs Holbain Muddy Duck                                                                                                  Dog of good size up tucked underline strong muzzle with perfect nostrils good masculine expression. Ok shoulders and a bit short upper arm could use a stronger fore chest ok for ribs.  Like a rocking horse, legs in front of him self and hanging in his knees. He is moving on two lines, silky topknot on the move he pushes up the underline on the move and digging him self down on the move, make him look long and low.

Open dog class.  The first 2 dogs were there to compete

Both tried really hard the 3nd and 4nd lost stamina after 3 laps. And weren’t really there to compete, lost interested after 2 laps.

                                                                                                                                                                    VD1st Andrews Poetscorner Ackerley good expression and eye colour teeth need cleaned good balance in muzzle and skull decent shoulder well formed rib cage good over and under line narrow second thigh, ok in hock high placed tail which he uses all the time on the move he’s restricted in front but parallel but most of the time he wants to be in the air.

2^nd Irwin’s Phasian Falkus Fancy 13 year old male really well formed muzzle and skull, good form and colour of eye kind expression still teeth in the mouth well placed ears and form despite his age he still carries a rib cage enough bone ok feet some hair on the body which you are allowed when you get to 13 moves around the ring with dignity.

Lovely to see so well kept old water spaniels. Thank you for bringing them under me.                                                                            First dog  somewhat cobby and right height. And full of spirit never a dull moment.

2 much older but still took a leap around the ring still a wonderful expression.

Beginners dog 1^{st Messenger’s} Stanegate Strike up the band 

Good citizens dog scheme dog

1^st Irwin’s Greensocks Summer Jazz (imp)

2^nd Hempstead’s Cuvana Loutre de Mer

3rd Newman &Hunter  Madagh An Mon

Best dog:  After a couple of laps the CC winner was a clear winner. R.cc was still for competition, but the open dog pulled out the leg for taking the reserve.  

MPB 1^st Andrews Antdela oozy’s amber 6 month old bitch feminine head and expression well formed muzzle good bite with big white teeth well shaped eyes that could have been darker good ear set but short in leathers acceptable shoulder fore chest and upper arm for age good ribcage for her age suitable bone excellent feet good length of croup good over and underline open coat that’s been brushed out and a kinked tail good low hocks reaching in front and driving behind still unbalanced on the move  .

PB 1st Gomms Doonbeg Mahonia at Chessrose gangly, feminine head and expression eyes too light and round not enough bone ok ear placement needs a better shoulder but enough length of upper arm still lacks for chest and spring of rib long In loin ok croup, still high in hock and narrow in thigh coat texture looks out brushed and not prepared for the show ring very well handled very good temperament

JB 1^st Andrews Antdela Lucianna feminine bitch very good quality good over and under line well formed skull and for face good nose and eyes that are the proper colour and expression good shoulder upper arm and forechest and spring of ribs well muscled loin which she uses on the move so you can see the roll needs a longer croup enough second thigh for age could have had more muscle excellent pads typical tail and correctly set, parallel going behind, elbowing out in front from the side she has good reach and drive

2^nd Browns Holbain Slice n.ice feminine bitch good muzzle and skull white teeth could have had a better shaped eye but ok in colour of eye for age, silky topknot well placed ears ok shoulder placement upper arm and forechest for age at the moment she is long in loin needs a longer croup narrow second thigh still high hocked correct tail set side gait is restricted in front she rolls correctly the longer she went the more she ran down hill.

First a bitch win on gait and her typical tail

NB 1^st Kirks Foulby Storm of Snow bitch with no quality ok muzzle with white big teeth round yellow eyes with wrong expression ok back skull soft topknot ok placed ears that are to short straight in front suitable bone lacks forechest enough spring of rib well muscled loin short croup narrow second thigh ok hock and well placed tail no reach and drive and not going on purpose parallel going away elbowing out in font the coat is wrongly prepared and out brushed won this class on temperament.

2^nd Mc Caffertys Gatewood Greasepaint at Coleraine a bit shy good frame good balance in head good feminine expression with the right eye colour which was too round ok shoulders could have a better upper arm and forechest needs more rib long in loin suitable bone croup could be a bit longer well set tail badly prepared coat on the move good reach and drive.

PGB 1^st RCC Furber’s Holbain Mustang Sally

Bitch of high quality   balanced height and length very good over and underline suitable bone excellent feet   well chiselled  head with a bit round eye but correct colour and expression well placed ears  well formed skull  good tail set and length of tail  coat of good quality but badly prepared. Moves with a long stride from the side and rolls parallel behind and front, a very nice bitch. (I would like to own her)

2^nd Stirk’s Malanis Tia at Grakar

Bitch with a strong muzzle good nostrils and well formed cheeks ok form of eye and expression good skull silky/soft topknot well placed ears of correct length Ok shoulders and upper arm suitable Bone structure excellent feet well formed ribcage good broad croup well placed tail good low hocks movement from the side she looks as if she is running down hill but is sometimes ok. Parallel behind and elbowing out in front

3^rd Rawlinson’s Doonbeg Heart and Soul for Pharises

Bitch with a feminine head and expression good length of muzzle correct teeth well formed cheek and good stop top knot and peak between her eyes. Well placed ears correct leather. Enough lay back of shoulders and upper arm still lacks fore chest 20 months but enough ribs for age Long in lion ok croup enough breadth of second thigh Low set hocks good feet  well placed tail and good liver colour good curls on body out brushed on legs. Covers ground from the side close behind and elbowing out in front. Correct mirrors on the front of the hocks.

Res Hempstead‘s Rosaleen Riona at Cuvana

 Feminine Bitch with good muzzle eyes too round but ok for colour good skull and ear placement good shoulder and upper arm and enough for chest for age suitable bone good depth of ribcage and ribs a bit long in lion a bit steep croup ok breadth of second thigh   ok hocks ok feet coat dusty and not curled enough moves from side with a lazy heavy step but with roll parallel from behind.

VHC Bradley’s Stangate Secret Thoughts

Bitch with a broad skull and unchisseld under eye which spoils her expression ok muzzle good teeth and beard. High set ears and too short, straight angulations in front lacks fore chest for age has spring of ribs but to short ribcage. Steep in angulations behind and high hocked. Coat out bushed and of bad quality´ Moves from the side with a short step, covers no ground. A bit shy 

A fun class to judge first bitch for me:outstanding. But she had a hard time with 2 handlers, coin making noise in the pocket, just above her head. Best mover in the class.

2nd was running more downhill but had some good breed points ribcage and feet.

LB 1^st Hempstead’s Cuvana Brise De Mer

 Feminine bitch to all parts. Good over and underline well formed head ok form of eye could have been darker good skull low set ears but too short, ok angulated in front ,ok for chest and suitable bone well formed ribcage strong loin rolls on the move, ok angulated in rear but high hocked. Good curls on the body and legs. Covers ground from the side parallel from behind and elbowing out in front. Well shown

2^nd Nelson’s Gatewood Gild the Lily(ai)

Big feminine bitch.  Excellent nostril and long well formed muzzle. Good form of eye could have been darker. Beard Beautiful placement of neck into shoulder, correct shoulder and upper arm ok for chest for age good bone outstanding feet. Could have had a more spring of ribs and a bit deeper ribcage long in loin Good croup well placed tail. Ok hocks for her size. Coat to open and soft top knot soft and silky. Moves with a long beautiful stride from the side parallel from behind turning/twisting her self in front. (Elbowing out more)

3^RD Furber’s Holbain Gossander

Feminine bitch correct size good over and underline could have had a better almond shaped eye ok for colour and expression good skull well placed ear ok shoulder upper arm and for chest good coat on body and legs but badly prepared ok breadth of croup and well placed tail ok hocks on the move she moves on two lines, twists herself and doesn’t cover ground unbalanced on the move not well shown

4^th Bannister’s Malanis Cara

 Feminine Bitch with well formed muzzle   good nostrils round eye that is also light good skull ok placed ears and leathers should have been more angulated in front but with ok bone and feet should have had more for chest ok loin and second thigh needs a lower hock but a well placed tail and form of tail.  Moves from the side without real strength. A bit stiff

Vhc McNaughts Byjazz razzamatazz at risalpur

Bitch with a good muzzle, broad back skull, unchiselled under eye and on cheeks ok form of eye and colour high placed ear with good leather and form straight shoulder and upper arm ok fore chest for age and ribs long in loin needs a longer croup ok second thigh but still high hocked good coat on body out brushed legs moves with a short step in front from the side parallel behind and elbowing out in front

First dog classic in many ways I liked her frame plus good ribcage and coat second outstanding neck placed powerful set into shoulders and lovely feet.

OB 1^st CC Andrew’s Antdela Arabella

 Feminine bitch to all parts. Well-balanced in height and length good over and underline. Good proportion in head with correct eye colour that could have been a bit more almond shaped, but good expression. Ok teeth that needs to be cleaned Good skull and muzzle well placed ears and shape of ears. Ok set shoulder and upper arm, good for chest and rib of ribcage good coat down to feet. Badly prepared. Ok breadth of croup and well placed tail and form of tail. Low set hocks. Covers ground and moves on purpose from the side. Parallel behind and keeps the elbows in when she not turning her self.

2^nd Carruther’s Stanegate Sparks will fly(ai)

 Big but feminine bitch. With a small head in conjunction to her body and long legs.  Well formed muzzle. Round yellow eyes with wrong expression good eye lids. Top knot trimmed like a wig. High set ears and not lob formed good lay back shoulder and length of upper arm, well sprung rib excellent Bone with outstanding paws high hocked Coat on the body woolly without curls or ringlets, on legs not as open.  Moves from side with a long stride. And moves on purpose a very happy bitch. Parallel back elbowing out in front.

3^rd Furber’s Holbain Capercaille

 Feminine bitch of good size good muzzle and expression ok form of eye but a bit light ok angulated in front and turn of ribcage that could have been longer.   Tucked up underline could have had a more pronounced fore chest.  A bit long in loin but ok croup and tail set perfect form of the tail. Coat big loose curls somewhat silky. Could have used a broader second thigh but ok set of hocks. Moves ok sometimes from the side, but not on purpose but run on 2 lines twisting herself

Res Attwood’s Doonbeg Guinevere

 Big feminine bitch Beautiful head and expression. Ok teeth Good muzzle correct eye colour. Correct ears lob formed. Good shoulder and ok upper arm good forchest good bone for size good feet excellent spring of ribs a bit long in loin but enough breadth of second thigh and ok croup. Coat condition not at its best lacks ringlets on the move she rolls and moved ok. Handling not at its best.

VHC Cooper,s Malanis Betts

Feminine bitch with a well chiselled head round light eye and loose eyelids spoils the expression. Good skull correct ear ok lay back of shoulders and length of upperarm ok spring of ribs good feet suitable bone ok loin and slightly steep croup. Ok breadth of second thigh. Excellent tail. Movement from side with a short step without strength. Parallel behind and in front.

First open bitch grew on me during this class. She tried so hard both on the move and standing. Using her tail all the time and with them colour of eyes.

 2^nd best mover in competition but light eye and no curls put her down

Beginners Bitch 1st  Antdelas Ozzey’s Amber

Good Citizens dog scheme bitch

1^st Hempstead’s Cuvana Brise de Mer

2^nd Hempstead’s Rosaleen Riona at Cuvana

3rd McNaught’s Byjazz Razzamatazz at Risalpur

Res McCafferty’s Gatewood Greasepaint at Coleraine (ai)

These dogs are so important for the breed, they promote IWS on a social level very important for the breed’s future. Thank you owners for doing that.